Liz Connor talks to Jamie Ward, psychology lecturer from University College London, about synaesthesia, a condition that leads to a peculiar mixing up of the senses. Because of the way their brains are wired, people with synaesthesia find shapes and colour in music, aromas in pictures and symphanies in works of art. Many famous artists have been diagnosed with synaesthesia but is it the cause of creativity? Can it be learnt? Is there such a thing as a perfect piece of art? They discuss these questions and many more.